As much as Reed’s wonderful strike will get plaudits, Jimenez’ touch for the Wilson goal was my highlight, to be able to see the opportunity and implement was absolutely elite level.
I hope at the end of the season that number of apologies from Howard Webb supplants GD as the decisive factor if teams are level on points, we are due another.
A very good point - Raul is a very intelligent footballer, and despite his clear physical fatigue at the moment he's contributing a massive part to our attack, be it goals, deft touches or clever runs from the wings. There should be some major plaudits for him from the team at the end of the season!
And yeah, "VAR apologies" should have some point conversion ratio attached to it...
That VAR call was the definition of how it's NOT supposed to function. There certainly was no "clear and obvious error" to overturn the call on the field, plus, I believe, semi-automated. Plus, the VAR judgment was flat-wrong. A big problem with VAR is frame accuracy. In realtime, the cut of the grass told the tale. Video runs 25fps in the UK, 30fps in the US, meaning one frame can make the difference between on- and off-side, and in this case, that one frame shift was glaring. BUT, again, not grounds for a judgment of "clear and obvious error."
Jimenez deserves knighthood for his hard work to the benefit of the English game!
You hit the nail on the head with the first bit - the linesman shouldn't have had their decision overturned on the basis of the evidence presented - it was not a clear and obvious error - and the manner in which VAR operated was flawed (and is, given what you've said here, needs some refurbishing. You'd think the Premier League would use a higher FPS for their cameras, no?)
With digital, higher frame rates are easily doable but very taxing on a system using many multiple cameras.
In essence, your phone accomplishes this when you record something in slo-mo. Record the same scene in normal time and note the difference in filesize. Using the US standard (NTSC) of 30 frames-per-second (fps), that slo-mo file will be somewhere close to three times larger as it was recording @ 90fps.
Accurate analysis can be accomplished with existing systems if VAR officials paid attention to frame accuracy with frame-by-frame toggling during VAR replays.
For example, the goal-scoring pass occurs at 20 minutes and 10 seconds of play. There are 30 frames (NTSC) between 20:09 and 20:10, and another 30 frames between 20:10 and 20:11. Frame-by-frame analysis breaks the action into 1/30th of a second slices of accuracy. Resolution of the image is another matter.
I've just watched the replay back and it's an interesting one - Diop does slow down as you've said, but he was marking van Dijk, and Castagne was the man with Gakpo. If he's quicker he's in position to intercept the ball before it reaches the attacker, and obviously it's a risk to expect your teammates to sort the loose ball out (even if one of Andersen and Leno ought to have reached it) but Castagne also could have tracked his man properly here as well.
Thanks for this Owen, great analysis.
As much as Reed’s wonderful strike will get plaudits, Jimenez’ touch for the Wilson goal was my highlight, to be able to see the opportunity and implement was absolutely elite level.
I hope at the end of the season that number of apologies from Howard Webb supplants GD as the decisive factor if teams are level on points, we are due another.
A very good point - Raul is a very intelligent footballer, and despite his clear physical fatigue at the moment he's contributing a massive part to our attack, be it goals, deft touches or clever runs from the wings. There should be some major plaudits for him from the team at the end of the season!
And yeah, "VAR apologies" should have some point conversion ratio attached to it...
Great game report!
That VAR call was the definition of how it's NOT supposed to function. There certainly was no "clear and obvious error" to overturn the call on the field, plus, I believe, semi-automated. Plus, the VAR judgment was flat-wrong. A big problem with VAR is frame accuracy. In realtime, the cut of the grass told the tale. Video runs 25fps in the UK, 30fps in the US, meaning one frame can make the difference between on- and off-side, and in this case, that one frame shift was glaring. BUT, again, not grounds for a judgment of "clear and obvious error."
Jimenez deserves knighthood for his hard work to the benefit of the English game!
Thanks!
You hit the nail on the head with the first bit - the linesman shouldn't have had their decision overturned on the basis of the evidence presented - it was not a clear and obvious error - and the manner in which VAR operated was flawed (and is, given what you've said here, needs some refurbishing. You'd think the Premier League would use a higher FPS for their cameras, no?)
With digital, higher frame rates are easily doable but very taxing on a system using many multiple cameras.
In essence, your phone accomplishes this when you record something in slo-mo. Record the same scene in normal time and note the difference in filesize. Using the US standard (NTSC) of 30 frames-per-second (fps), that slo-mo file will be somewhere close to three times larger as it was recording @ 90fps.
Accurate analysis can be accomplished with existing systems if VAR officials paid attention to frame accuracy with frame-by-frame toggling during VAR replays.
For example, the goal-scoring pass occurs at 20 minutes and 10 seconds of play. There are 30 frames (NTSC) between 20:09 and 20:10, and another 30 frames between 20:10 and 20:11. Frame-by-frame analysis breaks the action into 1/30th of a second slices of accuracy. Resolution of the image is another matter.
Sure hope that makes some sense.
'Castagne dozing' ? Sorry, it was Diop who had position on Gakpo - then slowed down expecting Leno to make the easy play.
I've just watched the replay back and it's an interesting one - Diop does slow down as you've said, but he was marking van Dijk, and Castagne was the man with Gakpo. If he's quicker he's in position to intercept the ball before it reaches the attacker, and obviously it's a risk to expect your teammates to sort the loose ball out (even if one of Andersen and Leno ought to have reached it) but Castagne also could have tracked his man properly here as well.
Has Leno deteriorated ? The second goal was a soft bouncer inside his goal area.